Dr. Kenwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and Biohacking


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Hi there, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this podcast is all about an incredible story of overcoming most cancers and likewise about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and likewise changing into a magnificence queen. And the explanation that she really did that and the way she used that platform to point out her scars and to point out her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside along with her most cancers prognosis and to carry consciousness. She additionally talks quite a bit about some taboo matters. we speak about sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually shocking statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and likewise methods to assist enhance them. So, positively, a fact-packed episode, her story is actually unbelievable. And with out additional ado, let’s be a part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks like you have got each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which are extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to begin broad, I’ve learn that you’ve a extremely, actually fascinating and superb story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a prognosis of in some unspecified time in the future of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually stunning and empowering and superb. So can we begin by studying a little bit extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump after I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional danger components, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be a little bit perplexed as a result of I believed it was concerning the affected person, not the, you already know, the numbers. So it took a number of convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They received an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very fallacious. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was fallacious and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a distinct hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can truthfully say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I need girls and even males to know that once they really feel that there’s one thing fallacious with them, that they have to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you already know you now. And nonetheless, you already know, this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a alternative. I may let most cancers defeat me or I may make it about one thing larger than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to affix a magnificence pageant. Now it’s possible you’ll surprise why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be a part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I truthfully imagine that for those who assume it’ll defeat you, it completely will. You’re proper somehow.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to affix Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to stay their greatest life despite most cancers. To point out them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less stunning, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It might have been simple to take action, nevertheless it was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t carry myself to put on it as a result of I needed to talk my fact. And after I gained Miss Florida, it was an enormous win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any form. So, in so some ways, you already know, my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very completely happy as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s superb. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves relating to medical care. And I had an identical expertise in a a lot much less ominous prognosis, however I, for years, knew one thing was fallacious and would go to docs and ask for checks. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was instructed, “Effectively, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of these items are regular postpartum. Your ranges are fantastic.” And so they had been solely testing, in fact, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a prognosis that then helped me get better. And also you hear about this quite a bit within the medical world. And sadly, it looks like it typically occurs extra to girls than males actually because I feel many research are executed on males as a result of they’re simpler to review.

However I feel…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I feel the perfect outcomes, and also you may agree from a physician’s perspective, occur when you have got a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and likewise eager to work with a practitioner as a companion in enhancing their very own well being. And the opposite factor you mentioned that I feel is so essential on this and in truthfully, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept that for those who assume one thing will defeat you, it’ll. And in addition when you’ve got a constructive mindset, that goes such a good distance towards the restoration. How essential do you assume that mindset piece was for you and for different individuals in the identical state of affairs?

Dr. Bawa: I really like what you mentioned as a result of so many docs should not testing you totally, even when they do take a look at you. And I’m so completely happy that you just had been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was fallacious. And so far as mindset is worried, mindset in my case was all the things. And this will appear dramatic, however it is a true incident. I had some issues throughout my most cancers remedy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges had been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And one in every of my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we rotated. And after I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I mentioned to her, “It’s okay. It actually is. I shall be fantastic. And never solely am I going to be fantastic, in only a few months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And she or he laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not price doing if it was not price doing totally and nicely. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to individuals generally about mindset, about perseverance. And I feel that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I’d have made it so far as I did and had the end result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any despair on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I feel that’s the principle factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you just reframed that and didn’t cover from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it may open a dialog about that. I feel typically in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence seems like and that strain to really feel excellent and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought of, you already know, bodily excellent. And possibly by doing that, you gave girls freedom to be who they really are in so some ways, and to not have to keep up this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your cause for competing as nicely is that you just had been capable of shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as nicely, proper? You used your platform to carry a number of consciousness there as nicely.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I needed to lift consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers prognosis, that there’s a lot stuff to look ahead to. Now, happening stage and the costume I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was a press release. I didn’t select a costume that lined my chest. I may have. There are lots of robes I may have worn which are completely stunning that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast measurement. However I went on stage as is. I used to be fully uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my alternative of costume. This was about, once more, one thing larger than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and brief hair with some areas that had been extra thinning than others. And this was essential to me as a result of I don’t need individuals to assume that most cancers shouldn’t be stunning. Most cancers is simply as stunning as anything. And I feel that that was a vital message to ship to the world. And I feel it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how to start with overwhelming a most cancers prognosis should really feel. And I hear from individuals, sadly, like I mentioned, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a prognosis and, you already know, overwhelmed and surprise the place to even begin on the lookout for sources. So I’m curious if there have been issues that had been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece once you had been going by that and/or that helped you already know issues to do to bodily assist your self by that course of and to ensure your physique was nourished and capable of get better?

Dr. Bawa: You recognize, it’s fascinating how life labored out for me. I used to be probably not…as a part of my medical follow, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based follow. After I began this, after I conceived this follow, I used to be not pondering of most cancers. I used to be not pondering of what a most cancers affected person wants for assist but satirically, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t must go exterior to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I may do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you possibly can’t eat nicely, your dietary stage goes down at a degree once you want the next dietary stage to struggle that illness, to struggle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, basically. You want it. I extremely advocate it. It saved my life, nevertheless it’s a poison. Let’s not neglect that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be capable of do hair restoration inside my follow as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many circumstances, it must be about hair loss prevention. No person thinks of it that manner, even my very own pals mentioned I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They instructed me I used to be being, you already know, very superficial. And I mentioned, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about preventing it when you possibly can struggle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my follow and I by no means went bald regardless of very sturdy chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mix of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers therapies or has gone by most cancers therapies, they understand how sturdy that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, you already know, on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin therapies at my very own follow as a result of chemotherapy causes a number of pores and skin injury and hyperpigmentation. So irrespective of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had a number of pores and skin injury. So, a number of that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my follow in any manner. You requested how I received by it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a dwelling anyway. Now, how different individuals would get by it, I extremely advocate that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the sources close to them. Perhaps there’s a follow like me close to them. Perhaps there’s any individual who will help them save their hair. Perhaps there’s somebody who will help them with wellness and IVs and, you already know, serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin adjustments and issues like that. As a result of, you already know, it’s very miserable once you look within the mirror and also you don’t seem like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you virtually don’t acknowledge who you’re. And there’s one thing to be mentioned for making an attempt to keep up what you possibly can of your self by all of it.

I imply, there was a degree I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t need to settle for that. So, I really went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye shade and do injury to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market can even do injury. Individuals don’t speak about it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it could possibly trigger some adjustments within the shade of your eye, for example. No person talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was constructive in each manner for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my follow for that. So, a lot of that, you already know, I used to be so fortunate, however I do advocate that they attain out to social staff, they attain out to assist teams, and in my case, to pals. My household doesn’t stay right here. My household’s abroad. So my pals had been my tribe. They had been those who helped me by all of it. My buddy, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. You recognize, it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s stunning. And I feel that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that typically occurs relating to most cancers remedy or any type of medical remedy. It looks like typically there’s a stress between the standard mannequin and the issues you must do medically and the wellness facet. And it looks like the perfect outcomes really occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it’s not an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which are supportive of your physique and likewise supportive of hopefully, the method of remedy and serving to your physique get better extra shortly. However that’s a extremely unbelievable story that hopefully provides hope to anybody else who may, sadly, be in the identical state of affairs. And also you talked about your follow, I’d like to delve into a few totally different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with individuals in quite a lot of other ways.

However one other space I hear quite a bit from girls about proper now and I ponder if COVID could be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks like there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in girls. I don’t know if that is present or for those who’ve possibly seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious for those who’re snug sharing, for those who had any of these struggles once you went by your chemo journey, but additionally the ways in which you assist handle that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very enthusiastic about. I do a number of intimate wellness for each women and men at my follow, and chemo and most cancers therapies, most cancers drugs, even after chemo may cause a number of adjustments in a lady’s hormonal steadiness. It threw me into menopause. So, you already know, there’s quite a bit that goes fallacious with most cancers and with getting older, generally. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that could be very ignored. Girls take higher care of their vehicles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I mentioned about hair loss relating to most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as a substitute of remedy. So, I encourage girls to return get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Effectively, I’m not that dangerous but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I need to clarify to girls around the globe that they should care for themselves sooner.

In the event you handle the issue earlier, youthful, you have got higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age in another way. It’s not simply your face that’s getting older, it’s your vagina as nicely. So I’m very huge in my follow on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to carry higher blood stream into your vaginal space, generally, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic ground, all of it wants good blood stream. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. You recognize, it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you grow old, blood vessels in every single place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood stream. And that makes your pelvic ground stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and all the things else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re actually making an enormous stride in direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to girls of all ages. It additionally makes girls extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a great plus level with it. So, we do O-Pictures at our follow, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the great, great results now we have with it. And there’s little doubt, and that’s the fantastic thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as nicely at my follow with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something unfavourable about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps girls throughout the board. I truthfully have an issue making an attempt to even let you know as a lady it won’t work. And you already know what? Usually the query is, “Who will it assist?” I feel the query with FemiWave is totally different, “Who will it not assist?” And I truthfully can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or kind. In order that’s one thing that I’m very completely happy to be doing. And we at the moment are a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for ladies and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, generally, by serving to individuals this fashion.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that getting older course of occurs there as nicely, particularly simply as part of regular getting older. And I do know girls report extra pelvic ground points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of ladies. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that manner. Are there different components, like for example, you talked about that that type of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause typically impacts sexual well being for ladies. Are these items that you just do in your workplace capable of assist type of handle the, like, sexual satisfaction facet of that even after menopause for ladies?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do could be very complete. I really feel the totally different components of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an example, I don’t simply do hormone alternative, I prefer to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of facets of our life as we age, as we struggle totally different ailments. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, generally. So I prefer to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I’d optimize your hormones. I’d optimize your vitamin and your metabolic state of affairs with IV remedy. I’d do, you already know, GAINSWave for those who’re a person, I do FemiWave for those who’re a lady. These are issues that assist everybody. I can not think about supplying you with a subset that it will not assist. In some form or kind, it’ll assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does any individual want, you already know, for example, a vaginal laser? We will at all times do this. Do the lads want some type of treatment? We will do this. So I feel that this needs to be seen as a much bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks like the perfect outcomes in any realm occur once you handle the physique as an entire and work and assist its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you just discovered useful personally or that you just advocate to your sufferers that they will do at house which are supportive, whether or not or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks like sleep and hydration are throughout the board at all times good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 visitors on this podcast say sleep shouldn’t be essential and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there stuff you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the results of those therapies and likewise that had been useful to you once you had been going by your journey?

Dr. Bawa: After all, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I may do to calm my thoughts was useful. I feel meditation is underrated. I don’t assume that it’s important to sit for an hour and, you already know, stare on the area to meditate. I feel meditation will be various things to totally different individuals. The concept is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a chunk of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I feel you must calm your thoughts and discover steadiness inside your self above all. After which I feel that hydration is an excellent factor. As you talked about, hydration is a fundamental factor. If you’re not hydrated, then nothing works nicely. Your pores and skin, your well being, generally, nothing works nicely with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you it’s important to eat natural, it’s not at all times possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do advocate making an attempt your greatest to have a extra inclusive food regimen, extra fruit and veggies, not taking any group out of your food regimen.

As an example, chemo can result in a number of weight acquire. It’s a fallacy when individuals assume that each one most cancers sufferers drop extra pounds. Some acquire. I did. So I feel the concept is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll drop extra pounds,” or let me do that or that, I’ll drop extra pounds. I feel a balanced, nutritious diet with wise parts is essential. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s essential. Stability is essential in each facet. After which, in fact, I feel when yow will discover a physician close to you who will help you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, you already know, all of this was obtainable to me, however hunt down practitioners who imagine in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their follow one thing that may show you how to. Now, sexually, for example, we’ve talked about FemiWave. If you’re someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we actually have a system. In the event that they contact us, we are able to at all times ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness system that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave know-how and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and convey good blood stream into the vaginal space. It’s not as sturdy as what we do within the workplace, nevertheless it’s an exquisite adjunct for every other remedy or anything you’re doing in your life. In the event you can’t get to us personally, at the very least use this at house. It is extremely useful.

Katie: And I’m curious for those who can converse to possibly in simply generalities or possibly particular circumstances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes individuals typically want these sorts of therapies? Like, I feel most individuals possibly don’t notice that you just see these type of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like individuals perceive in that stage. However it will seem to be growing blood stream can be a reasonably dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do individuals sometimes see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly every week in the past is a few gentleman who is nearly 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him they usually’re having the perfect intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had therapies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, you already know, they’re having intercourse at the very least as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And typically they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention any individual who’s virtually 70 years previous. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my follow, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you’re. You probably have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and stay your greatest life. Have you learnt that 20% of males of their 20s endure from erectile dysfunction? No person thinks that the 20s may carry dysfunction, nevertheless it’s completely true. It’s a recognized reality inside the scientific neighborhood that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you mentioned, we don’t at all times have these research in girls. There’s a glass ceiling for ladies and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re referred to as histrionic, hysterical, you already know, hysteria, the idea of hysteria, you already know, once you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to girls. So I’m not right here to say that…you already know, I’m not right here for a girls’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that women, we don’t at all times have the research for us, we don’t at all times have the statistics for us, however now now we have choices and we must always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males typically may have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the identical age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had huge environmental adjustments which are resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into essential to be extra proactive. When now we have extra unfavourable inputs that now we have to cope with, now we have to turn into extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you mentioned too about food regimen as nicely, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I feel that’s one thing that uniquely impacts girls extra as nicely due to food regimen tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks like many ladies battle with the mindset of having the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and having the ability to eat sufficient assorted meals to essentially really assist our physique. So I really like that you just introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve mentioned on right here earlier than is now we have to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so essential away from like meals is dangerous. There’s guilt hooked up to meals. I must food regimen and be thinner, to I really like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to one of the simplest ways potential? How do I assist it? How do I assist its pure processes of detoxing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unbelievable in what they will do, they only want a little bit bit extra assist in immediately’s world as a result of they’re going through greater than they’ve up to now.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you mentioned so many great issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we file this and really speak about this alone social media platforms as a result of what you mentioned is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Have you learnt that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing individuals don’t speak about. It’s not an attractive subject, nevertheless it’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you mentioned earlier about…you mentioned one thing easy, you mentioned, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. In the event you don’t get sufficient sleep, you have got decrease fertility. So when you have got decrease fertility, that impacts so many various facets of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So you then talked about, you already know, different adjustments which are occurring, different issues which are occurring with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a measurement 0-2 after I was identified with most cancers, I’m in all probability a measurement 6 proper now. And I’m not being arduous on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me fallacious, I’m not consuming the complete bread basket. But when I need a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not ingesting a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine often. I feel we should be kinder to ourselves as girls and as males. I feel society could be very robust on us. I feel there’s this complete idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be preventing that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went after I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, you already know, coping with fluid retention. I feel the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you’re feeling stunning, that feeling wants to return from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to individuals going by struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that energy wants to return from inside us. Whenever you look in that mirror, you must see somebody stunning, somebody sturdy, somebody who has persevered. Now we have all gone by struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal manner. I could have gone to medical college. I could put on an extended white coat. My successes are totally different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I need to do, encourage individuals to feeling and being their greatest. It wants to return from inside actually.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an essential mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily adjustments of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was quite a bit for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this a little bit bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And after I may take a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it grew to become a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as a substitute of preventing it and loving it as a substitute of depriving it. And that made the entire distinction. I feel you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to return and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to return from inside. And as girls, that additionally provides us the flexibility to be that for different individuals as nicely. However it could possibly’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna be certain that we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about girls affected by one thing referred to as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as nicely. Are you able to clarify why that’s occurring? And whether it is on the rise, why you assume it could be on the rise proper now, after which how girls can handle that?

Dr. Bawa: There are lots of explanation why girls are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people notice that solely 18% of ladies can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra essential. We have to have higher vaginal well being, generally. Like I mentioned, we have to carry higher blood stream into the realm to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I feel individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two totally different points. Some persons are having painful intercourse. Some persons are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are lots of parts to this. So I feel wellness as an entire is gonna contribute to it after which schooling that there’s a downside. It’s okay to have that downside. And it’s okay to talk about that downside. Whenever you handle it along with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Pay attention, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I feel there are just a few essential parts to this.

You want to converse to a therapist. There are therapists who specialise in sexual remedy and sexual wellness, they usually will help you with this. Relating to the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will show you how to with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are totally different instruments that you must assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a bunch of issues you are able to do to assist your self. And so they all contribute. I feel all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any one in every of them by themselves. So I feel there’s quite a bit on the market. We simply must get that assist.

Katie: And I feel having the dialog, I do know like all sexual well being subject is a little bit bit taboo and, like, I feel it raises eyebrows each time I speak about it on right here, however I feel the dialog can also be crucial as a result of we all know that that’s tied into general well being. And to your level, I feel it is a subject that isn’t talked about sufficient, particularly for ladies. We actually see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks like when males have a battle with that, it turns into a vital, imminent factor to repair. However girls, I really feel like typically are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s fallacious with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t notice it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of girls, simply penetrative intercourse typically isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel dangerous speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I feel opening the dialog and letting them notice that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an essential first step for ladies. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this obtainable and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in bother typically on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not displaying something that’s specific. I imply, my posts should not pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will typically take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there’s disgrace even to that extent. Now let me let you know one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my kids on a trip and shut the workplace for every week and my assistant went on a trip along with her household. We imagine in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we received an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers may at the very least make and alter appointments whereas we had been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Have you learnt that I received a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service they usually mentioned to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this complete account up, however we can not reply your calls as a result of some individuals name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate subject.” I mentioned, “Are you critical? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, you already know, “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, you already know, individuals calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? And so they mentioned, “Effectively, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I mentioned, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these had been girls telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in immediately’s day and age, within the 12 months 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I supply vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s type of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a few medical downside…like, to me that may be the identical as like just like a pregnant girl making an attempt to name her OB and being instructed, “Oh, I’m sorry, we are able to’t speak about that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…you already know, my head was spinning. I nonetheless keep in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I mentioned, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is dangerous? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the woman, I mentioned, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you have got a vagina? Do you ever discover that you just need assistance from a physician on your vagina? I don’t anticipate you to reply that query,” I mentioned to her, “however how are you going to deny girls the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I could offer you a small instance of the answering service, nevertheless it signifies a much bigger problem. It’s not okay to speak about it most often. Why? We’re all ladies and men, I imply, sexual well being is essential. We’re all in a state of affairs the place now we have the suitable to have good, intimate wellness and to not be instructed that it’s dangerous or soiled or upsetting to the common one that’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to individuals? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a grimy phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I’d not be alive immediately. It’s not essentially a foul factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? A very good intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. In the event you don’t dribble urine once you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s a much bigger problem than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we rework lives. And that’s why I feel that this must cease being such a taboo subject, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts after I speak about it, that YouTube must cease sending me, you already know, little emails warning me concerning the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being referred to as an issue baby as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all going through? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so completely happy you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Effectively, and also you’re so proper. I feel that the dialog is so essential. And for ladies simply to listen to that simply because these issues are widespread, it doesn’t imply they must be regular, or actually that they must expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine after I train or leap on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t must be a factor. I feel many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you have got youngsters, nevertheless it doesn’t must be. I feel beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And in addition a theme from this complete interview has been the mindset piece. And I feel that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly girls relating to these matters actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a notice in my present notes that for those who had been going to provide a TED Discuss, it will be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I really like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is an important to you. So I’d love to listen to a little bit bit extra about that as a result of I feel you’re proper, mindset permeates by all the things and is so, so essential. So, I’d simply love to listen to a little bit little bit of your perspective on that, having been by adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: You recognize, all the things about who I’m immediately has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t speak about this often, and I’m going to strive to not choke up about it as I speak about it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I’m going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s an enormous deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all academic, monetary boundaries. I used to be a sufferer of a number of emotional, home abuse and finally bodily abuse as nicely. And also you wouldn’t assume that a physician in my state of affairs would cope with that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m not in that state of affairs anymore, it lasted a few years. I gained’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a few mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about dropping hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me turn into a much bigger particular person, a greater particular person. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something unfavourable that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or kind that could be, to point out my sons, who’re my world, that life shouldn’t be concerning the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to rework it. And that’s why I feel that if I used to be to ever give a TED Discuss, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it will be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a few pageant. It was a a lot larger factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the concept of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers shouldn’t be purported to be stunning, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you acquire weight, you drop extra pounds, however both manner, you’re not at your greatest. So we assume that which means we’re not stunning. No, you’re simply as stunning if no more so as a result of now you have got overcome yet one more factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me stay a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s virtually oxymoronic when you concentrate on adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional progress.

Katie: I totally agree having been by trauma in my previous as nicely, I can now…I feel it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different individuals by that have and thru that story. Identical factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a cause. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I feel you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so essential and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we actually at all times have that alternative as nicely. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was referred to as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a guide or a variety of books which have had a profound impression in your life or your journey, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I feel a guide that at all times comes up in my thoughts after I’m requested a query about books or a guide that has modified me is a guide referred to as “Outliers.” Outlier is a guide written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are often outliers on the tip of that spectrum a method or one other, and what number of occasions it’s important to do one thing to succeed, to turn into good at it. And I feel that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the common, above the norm that I feel is a guide that basically helps me proceed my journey in direction of self-improvement, in direction of reaching excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as mentioned to me, after I was about 5 years previous, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your title. If you wish to be a physician, be the easiest you will be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. You recognize, if you wish to be any individual who does desserts for a dwelling, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in all the things. In order that’s, you already know, one thing that I feel “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s stunning. I really like that. And I’ll, in fact, put hyperlinks to your follow and to some publish regarding among the matters we’ve talked about immediately for any of you guys listening, particularly in case you are within the Florida space and need to discover Dr. Bawa and be taught. These hyperlinks shall be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners immediately, whether or not or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the matters we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I feel if I may really give two items of recommendation for those who’ll let me, I feel I’d prefer to say two issues. Firstly, girls, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is essential. If there’s one thing fallacious, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will hearken to you. Secondly, I’d say, I imagine in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see once you look within the mirror. In the event you’re not completely happy along with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There may be assist on the market. In the event you’re not having the perfect intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have the perfect intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, you already know, doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you just’re not pleased with, don’t be complacent. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Effectively, I’m not that dangerous but.” That idea is senseless to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is a whole catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, for example, the place it’s received no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. In the event you’re having points along with your hormones and also you’re having sizzling flashes, converse to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Try this. So, I feel, stay your greatest life, no matter which means to you. In no matter form or kind you possibly can elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I really like that. And I feel that sums up a number of what we talked about immediately and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful on your time immediately. I’m very grateful that you’ve recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you just’re serving to many different individuals do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was great.

Katie: And thanks as at all times to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most respected property, your time and vitality, and a spotlight with us immediately. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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